The GIT! wrote:

Another point - I notice that the Requirement lists do not mention the option of Group Rituals (ie the cultists all gathered around the sacrifical victim, chanting unmentionable, abominable and evil incantations while the sorcerer proceeds with summoning the demon from the pits of hell). Surely it would be worthwhile adding that in and coming up with a simple formula (maybe based on numbers and relative abilities) to help reduce the costs of AC and Difficulty as well.

What about this?

5 cultists (the pentagram) for 12 hours = +1 point
9 cultists (the eneagram) for 12 hours = +2 points
13 cultists (the "cursed number) for 12 hours = +3 points
Triple the amount of cultists or double the time = +1 point

The GIT! wrote:

Fermmoylle wrote:

The GIT! wrote:

Another point - I notice that the Requirement lists do not mention the option of Group Rituals (ie the cultists all gathered around the sacrifical victim, chanting unmentionable, abominable and evil incantations while the sorcerer proceeds with summoning the demon from the pits of hell). Surely it would be worthwhile adding that in and coming up with a simple formula (maybe based on numbers and relative abilities) to help reduce the costs of AC and Difficulty as well.

What about this?

5 cultists (the pentagram) for 12 hours = +1 point
9 cultists (the eneagram) for 12 hours = +2 points
13 cultists (the "cursed number) for 12 hours = +3 points
Triple the amount of cultists or double the time = +1 point

Oooh - I like this. I was trying to formulate some figures but these are great (and I like the justification for the numbers)! With regards to the final option (Triple the amount of cultists or double the time) how about offering another alternative?

Double the amount of cultists AND double the time = +1

Hence, we end up with...

5 cultists (the pentagram) for 12 hours = +1 point
9 cultists (the eneagram) for 12 hours = +2 points
13 cultists (the "cursed number) for 12 hours = +3 points
Triple the amount of cultists, or double the time, or
Double the amount of cultists AND double the time = +1 point

39 cultists may be a bit over the top in some scenes but 26 may be more workable.

 

I know 26 may be more workable, but you usually see odd number of cultists performing most rituals. If we just double the number of cultists, we'll end with an even number in the end, and I was trying to avoid that.
More than that, remember that +3 is a LARGE bonus in BoL (the equivalent of a Boon). Giving more bonuses should require your entire covenant and a sacrifice of your firstborn daughter on that really hard to see Blood Moon. ;-)

Fermmoylle wrote:

The GIT! wrote:

Fermmoylle wrote:

What about this?

5 cultists (the pentagram) for 12 hours = +1 point
9 cultists (the eneagram) for 12 hours = +2 points
13 cultists (the "cursed number) for 12 hours = +3 points
Triple the amount of cultists or double the time = +1 point

Oooh - I like this. I was trying to formulate some figures but these are great (and I like the justification for the numbers)! With regards to the final option (Triple the amount of cultists or double the time) how about offering another alternative?

Double the amount of cultists AND double the time = +1

Hence, we end up with...

5 cultists (the pentagram) for 12 hours = +1 point
9 cultists (the eneagram) for 12 hours = +2 points
13 cultists (the "cursed number) for 12 hours = +3 points
Triple the amount of cultists, or double the time, or
Double the amount of cultists AND double the time = +1 point

39 cultists may be a bit over the top in some scenes but 26 may be more workable.

 

I know 26 may be more workable, but you usually see odd number of cultists performing most rituals. If we just double the number of cultists, we'll end with an even number in the end, and I was trying to avoid that.
More than that, remember that +3 is a LARGE bonus in BoL (the equivalent of a Boon). Giving more bonuses should require your entire covenant and a sacrifice of your firstborn daughter on that really hard to see Blood Moon. ;-)

I really, really like this.   What a great setpiece fight....

 

The GIT! wrote:

Another point - I notice that the Requirement lists do not mention the option of Group Rituals (ie the cultists all gathered around the sacrifical victim, chanting unmentionable, abominable and evil incantations while the sorcerer proceeds with summoning the demon from the pits of hell). Surely it would be worthwhile adding that in and coming up with a simple formula (maybe based on numbers and relative abilities) to help reduce the costs of AC and Difficulty as well.

Would having 1d6 Assistants per magnitude of spell, be a suitable requirement. This would help reduce cost but not difficulty.