StMichael wrote:

It's called the Action Economy, not Action Monopoly!

In my defense, "Action Monopoly" sounds like a fun game. Moreso than regular Monopoly!

StMichael wrote:

It just seems a little weird that three different groups of Heroes go one after another before anyone on the other side gets a go - and with six PCs and somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty Hero Points floating around, it seems like its gonna be pretty common that someone has a Legendary or Mighty Success on Priority. So, I think that Legendary - Mighty - Villain - Success etc. will work a little better, and make Mighty+ Successes on Priority a bit more meaningful. Otherwise, given that y'all seem able to kick my NPCs' asses (at least in every other system) pretty freely despite what I do, I'm afraid combat will be over before the bad guys even have a chance.

If I'm wrong, it should become obvious pretty quickly, and we can change back.

Honestly, I'm not much of a fan of the Priority Roll. I actually use the old BoL Legendary system for Initiative, which allows enemies to also roll. Also, for duels, I actually have them roll initiative each round and, further, I use the weapons characteristics to determine the die they roll for initiative as follows...

• Damage D6H weapons, use the number from the lower die for next round initiative.
• Damage D6L weapons, use the number from the higher number for next round initiative.
• Damage D6 weapons, roll two dice and choose which number to use for damage and which number for next round initiative.

Essentially, more damaging weapons tend to be a bit slower, lower damage weapons tend to be a bit quicker, and well balanced weapons can sacrifice speed for damage, or vice versa.

The GIT! wrote:

StMichael wrote:

It just seems a little weird that three different groups of Heroes go one after another before anyone on the other side gets a go - and with six PCs and somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty Hero Points floating around, it seems like its gonna be pretty common that someone has a Legendary or Mighty Success on Priority. So, I think that Legendary - Mighty - Villain - Success etc. will work a little better, and make Mighty+ Successes on Priority a bit more meaningful. Otherwise, given that y'all seem able to kick my NPCs' asses (at least in every other system) pretty freely despite what I do, I'm afraid combat will be over before the bad guys even have a chance.

If I'm wrong, it should become obvious pretty quickly, and we can change back.

Honestly, I'm not much of a fan of the Priority Roll. I actually use the old BoL Legendary system for Initiative, which allows enemies to also roll. Also, for duels, I actually have them roll initiative each round and, further, I use the weapons characteristics to determine the die they roll for initiative as follows...

• Damage D6H weapons, use the number from the lower die for next round initiative.
• Damage D6L weapons, use the number from the higher number for next round initiative.
• Damage D6 weapons, roll two dice and choose which number to use for damage and which number for next round initiative.

Essentially, more damaging weapons tend to be a bit slower, lower damage weapons tend to be a bit quicker, and well balanced weapons can sacrifice speed for damage, or vice versa.

 I know you proposed something like this when I was working on Mythic Edition, but I couldn't see it working. Can't remember what my issue with it was now.

Are you rolling for "damage" every round, whether you hit your opponent or not? 
 

Circling back, because we had our first major combat in last night's session!

I was happy with how things went with my character (Thief 2, Mercenary 1, so a bit more Gray Mouser than Fafhrd). Got in a good lick with my sabre against a shadow demon (tangible enough that steel worked). Since I had no Strength bonus on my damage, dropped a Hero Point to pop it to a Mighty Success and chose Bloody Slash to add 6 to my damage. It's nice that there's a mechanism for a 'little guy' to significantly boost damage done.

Still having a bit of trouble remembering the mechanics. A few more sessions should make them second nature, though. You would think the formulas (Task Roll: 2d6+Attribute+Career-Difficulty / Attack Roll: 2d6+Attribute+Combat Ability-Defense / Priority Roll: 2d6+Mind+Initiative) would be easy enough to remember! Especially since St. M created a character spreadsheet that has them written out in a sidebar.

I think the biggest hitch for Task Rolls is remembering which Boons give a Bonus Die for what activity (same with Flaws).

All in all, it was a satisfying session. We overcame our prison guards, disarming them and then giving their weapons back in a way they did not prefer. Our not-a-minotaur barbarian pulled the arm off a sorcerer that was trying to zap him. There was much sneaking and stabbing and sorcery.

I'm really looking forward to when I (and the rest of the group) get really comfortable with the rules. Things should really speed along, in the grand Sword and Sorcery tradition, once we do.

Oh, yeah. And a figure from my character's past popped up and has him paranoid as all get out at this point.

[Even here I misremembered the Priority forumula. Put Agility instead of Mind first time around!]
 

Last edited by CaptAdventure (7/08/2024 2:12 pm)

Gruntfuttock wrote:

I like to run combat as fast as I can, probably as a reaction against those players I've known who like to slow combat down to a slow motion chess game on a high gravity world.

Well put!

Even as a player, I sometimes get frustrated with the "let's stop and try to account for every contingency before we start" approach. I think it comes primarily from people who have played with Old School Antagonistic GMs. They're afraid (sometimes subconsciously) that they'll do the wrong thing and bet screwed.