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10/07/2025 7:45 am  #1


Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

Somewhat inspired by recent Kickstarter project Greathelm, which is a small skirmish game using one frame of plastic miniature knights for two people (although the stretch goals have taken this into other realms and added much more). From this I thought about a game simpler than Barbarians of Legend that would be sort of a 'starter set' or more of a 'beer and pretzels' version of the rules. The general premise is that the characters are clearing out a building, which can be modular, based on time. The situation is that small monsters have taken over an area and if not eradicated bigger adversaries will appear (human and monstrous). The game can be played in an evening or in small campaigns. The maps can change each game. 
My thought is to keep it small and contained. And portable. Take it with you, teach your kids or grandkids, co-workers, that guy in the park that talks to trees (maybe not him, unless his bark is worse than his bite). Start with a few maps and paper figures, encourage people to create maps and more character types and monsters, making a base game that grows organically and leads people to BoL, Everywhen and their variants.

Thoughts? 


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10/07/2025 9:58 am  #2


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

If you were going to do a small starter set, I think it should be something like the "original" Krongar the Gladiator scenario.

I ran the idea of a BoL starter set past Ludospherik a while back. They were busy with Lemurian Chronicles 4. But I guess if someone were to present it to them, more-or-less "oven ready", they couldn't say no.

 

10/07/2025 1:53 pm  #3


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

I was thinking of a way to make it a small boxed set, like the beginner boxes for That Other Game. Although I, myself, like smaller box sets, although a map can fold...
If you can't convince Ludospherik my chances are less. However I can go without Lemuria as a setting, also.


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10/07/2025 10:32 pm  #4


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

My response from the MeWe post:
I'm not sure who he target audience is for a game simpler than Simon's 'Barbarians of Legend', but if you get people interested in this I wish you success.


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10/08/2025 1:15 am  #5


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

Warlord of Lemuria wrote:

I was thinking of a way to make it a small boxed set, like the beginner boxes for That Other Game. Although I, myself, like smaller box sets, although a map can fold...
If you can't convince Ludospherik my chances are less. However I can go without Lemuria as a setting, also.

It needs Lemuria as the setting otherwise what's the point?
 

 

10/08/2025 7:21 am  #6


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

Gruntfuttock wrote:

My response from the MeWe post:
I'm not sure who he target audience is for a game simpler than Simon's 'Barbarians of Legend', but if you get people interested in this I wish you success.

I believe the target audience is the occasional gamer, or a family, or just people gathered somewhere, like while camping or at another similar venue.
Not sure if I want to develop this, I am toying with it and having fun with what I have come up with so far. Thank you for the well-wishing!


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10/08/2025 7:26 am  #7


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

SimonW wrote:

Warlord of Lemuria wrote:

I was thinking of a way to make it a small boxed set, like the beginner boxes for That Other Game. Although I, myself, like smaller box sets, although a map can fold...
If you can't convince Ludospherik my chances are less. However I can go without Lemuria as a setting, also.

It needs Lemuria as the setting otherwise what's the point?
 

Confession time. I have run Barbarians of Lemuria for a LONG time. I have also never really used Lemuria myself. My settings are usually a mishmash of ideas, other settings and a few trappings from Lemuria. Any of the area specific Boons and Flaws are just presented with either another area or without a specific place name, just a rough idea of the equivalent. With this idea a specific setting is only lightly applied unless one wants to make a concrete place.


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10/08/2025 7:40 am  #8


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

Maybe I'm looking at this from a different angle than you. If there was to be a commercial "boxed starter set", then it would need to be a gateway to the full BoL (just like most other starter sets, like Runequest, Pendragon etc.) . Then it would definitely need to be set in Lemuria.

For your own interest, then it could be anything you like, obviously.

 

10/09/2025 7:20 am  #9


Re: Interest in an even lighter version of the rules?

I just see it as a stepping stone into BoL/Everywhen. To introduce 2d6 gaming in a particular way. The foes would be fairly generic and could include Lemurian beings, that's the thing, it can grow into anything.


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